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Post by Darkwing on 2011-09-05, 12:03

Difference between forget and ignore Very Happy And even still, the reason I;m going to university and spending in the rough vicinity of 30+ thousand dollars is to learn and get degree, I'm not gonna waste my money on socializing, the degree is primary, anything else, irrelevant.

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Post by Shemuel on 2011-09-05, 12:05

Oh Chris, you crazy.

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Post by Darkwing on 2011-09-05, 12:08

Crazy, or just know what I'm buying. Would you spend 30, 000 on socializing?

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Post by Shemuel on 2011-09-05, 12:12

No but I wouldn't spend 30,000 on a miserable three years either.

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Post by Darkwing on 2011-09-05, 12:13

But if it bought you the rest of your life? See that's how I see it, by purchasing these "miserable" 4 years, I'm in actuality purchasing the rest of my life. Without these next few years, I would have very little chance at a career that makes more than minimum wage with acceptable work loads.

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Post by leewatson1 on 2011-09-05, 12:14

Shemuel wrote:That's not a bad call option at all, fair play.

DW, don't forget mah letter.

I also got a "free" sony erricson xperia x8 aswell, yea not to bad.

I'm going to pay in excess of 29,000 for my university courses

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Post by Shemuel on 2011-09-05, 12:52

Ouch, this year was the last intake of students at 3000 tuition fees, wasn't it? But if you have a low income, hopefully you'll pay less with grants and suchlike. Living in Wales or Scotland is better though Razz

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Post by Philly Homer on 2011-09-05, 12:53

Darkwing wrote:But if it bought you the rest of your life? See that's how I see it, by purchasing these "miserable" 4 years, I'm in actuality purchasing the rest of my life. Without these next few years, I would have very little chance at a career that makes more than minimum wage with acceptable work loads.

But by purchasing your "miserable" 4 years, you can also create a network of people who you'll be in contact with for the rest of your life. Don't know what kind of degree you're getting, but knowing the right people is a very important thing. Not even friends (though it's preferable,) just acquaintances with whom you might play golf every now and then and do business with.

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Post by Darkwing on 2011-09-05, 13:05

Well yes obviously, I'm not discounting that or saying I won't by any means. Networking is extremely important. In my mind, socializing is a different thing. I fail to see how getting shitfaced once a week will better my life.

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Post by A-BIack_Man on 2011-09-05, 13:23

Did you guys apply for any scholarships? They help quite a bit. You don't have to be coming out of high school to get any either, so I'm sure anyone can get some money.

And about the whole friend situation that we talk a lot about: I find more reliable friends at work than at school. Plus you don't have to pay to go to work. Win/win

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Post by leewatson1 on 2011-09-05, 13:28

A-BIack_Man wrote:Did you guys apply for any scholarships? They help quite a bit. You don't have to be coming out of high school to get any either, so I'm sure anyone can get some money.

And about the whole friend situation that we talk a lot about: I find more reliable friends at work than at school. Plus you don't have to pay to go to work. Win/win

I can get a student loan which i don't start paying back until i earn over 21,000 per year

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Post by Darkwing on 2011-09-05, 13:38

I got about 5,000 dollars in Scholarships, grants and the like

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Post by Shemuel on 2011-09-05, 13:57

Yeah, I've got a scholarship, but they're not as common over here. The student loan is always very enticing - many who take one out will never have to pay anything back.

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Post by leewatson1 on 2011-09-05, 15:51

Shemuel wrote:Yeah, I've got a scholarship, but they're not as common over here. The student loan is always very enticing - many who take one out will never have to pay anything back.

Lucky you! Looks like the student loan for myself then spend 30 years in a dead end job have the loan voided then do my dream job then die Razz

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Post by rrps700 on 2011-09-05, 17:23

school starts tomorrow Sad hopefully its the year 7 s only

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Post by leewatson1 on 2011-09-05, 21:18

rrps700 wrote:school starts tomorrow Sad hopefully its the year 7 s only

You know i hated school when i was there but now when i look back i ask myself why didn't i try harder why did i take every opportunity to miss classes or not do homework? I don't know wether it's to do with me actually doing education that i want to do and therefore i am more intrested in it or i have hit the level of maturity where you do look back and reflect hopefully even learn from the past and the value of education. There are millions of people in poorer 3rd world countries and even some in our own that would give anything to have the ability to go to school and learn. So please don't moan about it, it is what will decide the rest of your future. (apart from EMA and university fee's you can moan about them rabble rabble rabble)

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Post by Shemuel on 2011-09-05, 21:32

Bear in mind he is 15 and has to endure year 7 classes. It can't be a bed of roses.

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Post by Darkwing on 2011-09-05, 23:47

Shemuel wrote:Yeah, I've got a scholarship, but they're not as common over here. The student loan is always very enticing - many who take one out will never have to pay anything back.


Weird...it's almost the exact opposite here. Take a student loan and you will ultimately end up paying double the tuition simply due to interest as it will take years to pay back the loan.

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Post by leewatson1 on 2011-09-06, 06:37

Darkwing wrote:
Shemuel wrote:Yeah, I've got a scholarship, but they're not as common over here. The student loan is always very enticing - many who take one out will never have to pay anything back.


Weird...it's almost the exact opposite here. Take a student loan and you will ultimately end up paying double the tuition simply due to interest as it will take years to pay back the loan.


Well if you get yourself a proper student loan I think the interest is really low less rhan1% in some cases

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Post by leewatson1 on 2011-09-06, 06:39

Shemuel wrote:Bear in mind he is 15 and has to endure year 7 classes. It can't be a bed of roses.
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Sorry for double post but I'm on an iPod ATM and I had to do at least 8 classes at his age and I had extra study classes and coursework assignments onto of that In some cases I may have had a Sunday afternoon that u could take off from doing work

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Post by Shemuel on 2011-09-06, 06:50

No, no, I meant he is doing the classes of someone three years younger than him.

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Post by leewatson1 on 2011-09-06, 07:07

Shemuel wrote:No, no, I meant he is doing the classes of someone three years younger than him.

Is he? well then that should be easy XD

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Post by Darkwing on 2011-09-06, 08:32

leewatson1 wrote:
Darkwing wrote:
Shemuel wrote:Yeah, I've got a scholarship, but they're not as common over here. The student loan is always very enticing - many who take one out will never have to pay anything back.


Weird...it's almost the exact opposite here. Take a student loan and you will ultimately end up paying double the tuition simply due to interest as it will take years to pay back the loan.


Well if you get yourself a proper student loan I think the interest is really low less rhan1% in some cases

It is a proper student loan. I could take a bank loan and the interest would be even higher, but this is a proper, government funded, loan solely for students. The one difference between our two countries seems to be we actually have to pay the loan back and you guys don't (dunno how it's a loan if you don't pay it back)

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Post by Shemuel on 2011-09-06, 10:01

England
You only begin to start paying back after you begin earning over a certain amount - currently 9% of everything earned above 15,000 a year.
Bear in mind the interest is only in line with inflation, so your debt won't increase as time goes on like a bank loan.

Anything outstanding after 25 years is dropped.

Oh, and it tends to be nicely reduced if you move overseas.

Next year, when Lee starts, everything gets tweaked. However, it's too complicated to be able to say he'll be worse or better off.

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Post by Darkwing on 2011-09-06, 10:15

We have to start paying it back the moment we finish school. So I could continue taking university and whatnot for 10 years and wouldn't pay a cent until I finally finish

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Post by Philly Homer on 2011-09-06, 13:09

Darkwing wrote:(dunno how it's a loan if you don't pay it back)

I personally see the labor you provide for the country (and by extension the government) as more than enough repayment for whatever money you may borrow from the government for uni. Cause, you know, college graduates are pretty valuable.

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Post by Darkwing on 2011-09-06, 13:14

Well, y'know, like all retail giants, the government is trying to get s much money as it can

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Post by leewatson1 on 2011-09-06, 14:34

I was told at college you only pay 9% on everything over 21k per year and know the recent education changes ill be worse off

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Post by Shemuel on 2011-09-06, 20:48

We will pay beyond 15,000 and you will pay beyond 21,000 (this for you will actually change. The threshold will be adjusted to always be the average income).

And despite the commotion, you could actually pay less, Lee. The higher threshold, and also lower repayments, mean you could well do better, depending upon your personal circumstances. (This page is quite a useful resource)

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Post by leewatson1 on 2011-09-07, 06:35

I've just been checking direct.gov and I can't make heads nor tails of their site

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Post by Shemuel on 2011-09-07, 08:42

Yeah. Have a look at the link I put, at least you'll be able to understand it in principle then.

Next year, you should apply as early as possible because they usually have huge backlogs.

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Post by leewatson1 on 2011-09-07, 13:12

Yes college gets us to apply December or Jan depending on shaft course your applying for. I still need to do more research on what ibid to go to since I want ok academic and a good social scene swell any ideas when I will be staying in the halls of residence aswell

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Post by Shemuel on 2011-09-07, 13:15

What do ' shaft' and 'ibid' denote?

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Post by Darkwing on 2011-09-07, 13:15

I just had my first day.

Still dealing with loan stresses as I started the process in April when it first became available and I'm still having last minute problems with it which has me highly stessed

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Post by Shemuel on 2011-09-07, 13:17

Cool, did you have to introduce yourself?

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Post by Darkwing on 2011-09-07, 13:25

No, teachers introduced themselves, but not the other way around

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Post by Shemuel on 2011-09-07, 13:26

Who did you sit by today?

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Post by Darkwing on 2011-09-07, 13:27

Haven't a clue

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Post by leewatson1 on 2011-09-07, 13:28

Shemuel wrote:What do ' shaft' and 'ibid' denote?

nothing some jibbersih my phone decided to insert

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Post by Jtull on 2011-09-08, 02:40

woo I hate auto correct!

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Post by Vedic on 2011-09-08, 15:10

Well I might be going to college this year...maybe next. Either on an 4 year game design course, or an 3 year Uniformed service course.

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Post by leewatson1 on 2011-09-08, 18:05

Vedic wrote:Well I might be going to college this year...maybe next. Either on an 4 year game design course, or an 3 year Uniformed service course.

Don't do games design at college you'll get nowhere your better off doing a genreal it/coding course then specialising once your at uni at least then you have your A-levels to fall back on as the games industry is hard to get into although people think it's simple.

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Post by Darkwing on 2011-09-09, 13:57

On another note, paypal finally cleared, which means there should be nothing getting in the way of stuff happening within the next week...except for maybe me being a full time student and still working full time at the theatre...

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Post by leewatson1 on 2011-09-09, 14:04

DE I believe work and education are more important and we are patient the current system is fine

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Post by Darkwing on 2011-09-09, 14:06

Well education is, work, well, I'd rather be working like 10 hours a week now, but if the next schedule doesn't look like that, then I'll have words to say...

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Post by Shemuel on 2011-09-09, 14:07

What are you using paypal for? I know what you mean about it taking time, I only get paper statements every three months and was too lazy to request one.

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Post by leewatson1 on 2011-09-09, 14:18

I hate papal I set it up then they kept doing double payments not paying people so I just use my debit card online and I have Halifax secure so I have some triad protection

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Post by Darkwing on 2011-09-10, 12:39

Yeah, it only took 16 days to do a simple transaction

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Post by Jtull on 2011-09-12, 00:51

wow thats crazy slow.

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Post by Vedic on 2011-09-12, 17:38

So... 166 members have signed up in September alone. so..far, is that a record?

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