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Post by Evil Person on 2010-10-31, 23:09

So i play this online game, its still in the Alpha Stages, its called minecraft, i was thinking of hosting my own server, and another person who has a server says that even my crappy 2000 can run it, now my father is very strict on this kionda stuff and i am probibly not gonna tell him if i do make a server.

Before i do.

What are the risks, how can he find out, and can my computer be perminetly damaged from this.

Basically i want to know is, if he looks at our network, will he see the server thing on my computer.

How can i hide it so he cant.

tell me if this is a good idea or not, lol Very Happy

Note: My father used to work in computers, so keep that in mind when responding.
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Post by Shemuel on 2010-10-31, 23:45

The computer will have to be on at all times, including internet access. He will notice.

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Post by Philly Homer on 2010-10-31, 23:55

If he calls you out on it... DENY, DENY, DENY
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Re: Server Help

Post by Evil Person on 2010-11-01, 00:51

The computer is on all the time anyway, uncluding on the internet, all of our computers are.
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Post by Shemuel on 2010-11-01, 08:06

Wow, multiple computers always on. He must be a computer whizz.

You'll never be able to outfox him forever.

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Post by JPB18 on 2010-11-01, 09:50

Evil Person wrote:Note: My father used to work in computers, so keep that in mind when responding.

Ps: U'r screwed... When the internet bill arrives, he will definitly notice that...

Now, even on unlimited trafic, they sent you "bills" with the downloads and uploads you made... Only that will be enough to know that something is happening..

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Post by Darkwing on 2010-11-01, 11:43

Really? We don't get billed with that kinda info

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Re: Server Help

Post by webxro on 2010-11-01, 11:52

Me neither , what communist company does that ?
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Post by Vedic on 2010-11-01, 12:03

webxro wrote:Me neither , what communist company does that ?

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Re: Server Help

Post by webxro on 2010-11-01, 12:11

to respond to the topic servers are as sure as the firewall is so keep that in mind, also if you want to have a server that pc must run a program that does those things , and that means that you'd have to be a PC newbie not to observe a new program running and consuming a big part of the CPU , even if it 's somehow not so visible program it will appear in the taskmanage s o there 's no hiding
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Post by Vedic on 2010-11-01, 12:13

i would't recommend starting a sever on your win 2k comp
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Re: Server Help

Post by Evil Person on 2010-11-01, 12:26

He has his own computer, i am the only one who uses this peace of crap, for the reason its a 2k and verything else is an xp or above.

And i dont have a computer that he wont notice it on unless its my 2k, and on of the server owners said it would be fine on my 2k, even though it doesent even run the program.

Ok who has Verizon, we have some sort of Verizon Fiber Optic Router......its really good, never goes down (92% of the time its up)

And i download shit al the time and he never notices........so basically, how much would this make the bill go up?

ANd who has verizon, i need to know this now before i listen to anyone of you talking about it will show up on the bill, these are my prime concearns.

1. How Much will the bil go up.

2. Will he see the server from another computer

3. Will it kil my computer, even just a small server, and the maps are only like 5 kb-4 mb btw

4. Someone give me a straight answer please Very Happy

5. Can i get a virus or anything from this.

6. I am not the most knowlagable with computers......so someone explain this in english (though i know alittle more than average.....i am not a computer genuis)
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Re: Server Help

Post by webxro on 2010-11-01, 12:28

you can run python or pearl scripts on a online free host , and there are a few servers made in these programing languages take a look maybe you will come up with a idea

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Post by Vedic on 2010-11-01, 12:30

Internet providers only bill you in 3rd world countries.
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Re: Server Help

Post by webxro on 2010-11-01, 12:36

Evil Person wrote:He has his own computer, i am the only one who uses this peace of crap, for the reason its a 2k and verything else is an xp or above.

And i dont have a computer that he wont notice it on unless its my 2k, and on of the server owners said it would be fine on my 2k, even though it doesent even run the program.

Ok who has Verizon, we have some sort of Verizon Fiber Optic Router......its really good, never goes down (92% of the time its up)

And i download shit al the time and he never notices........so basically, how much would this make the bill go up?

ANd who has verizon, i need to know this now before i listen to anyone of you talking about it will show up on the bill, these are my prime concearns.

1. How Much will the bil go up.

2. Will he see the server from another computer

3. Will it kil my computer, even just a small server, and the maps are only like 5 kb-4 mb btw

4. Someone give me a straight answer please Very Happy

5. Can i get a virus or anything from this.

6. I am not the most knowlagable with computers......so someone explain this in english (though i know alittle more than average.....i am not a computer genuis)


ok lets have some answers

1 . you won't pay a thing , verizone taxes the connection to internet not the tragic
2. no unless he plays minecraft or reads this forum
3. it depends can you post the specs of the pc here
4 . yes
5 no as long as you have a decent anti-virus and a good firewall
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Re: Server Help

Post by JPB18 on 2010-11-01, 13:34

Vedic wrote:Internet providers only bill you in 3rd world countries.

Well... Cabovisão, my ISP, always sends a report to our mailbox every month, with a report saying the average consuption of that month... It's also one of the best services out here, so...

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Re: Server Help

Post by Evil Person on 2010-11-01, 14:09

Thank you Webxro

ok lets have some answers

1 . you won't pay a thing , verizone taxes the connection to internet not the tragic (YES Very Happy)


2. no unless he plays minecraft or reads this forum (Nope, and how did you know it was minecraft?)


3. it depends can you post the specs of the pc here (Yes i can, read below)


4 . yes (Thank you Very Happy)


5 no as long as you have a decent anti-virus and a good firewall (ALways online Very Happy just updated it yesterday)

Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional
4,354 MB Free Space (11%) ( 11% left of 38,154 MB)
Intel Pentium III Processor, 730 MHz
512 MB RAM
Page File: 201 MB Used, 1046 MB Avalible
Dirext X 9

Tell me if you need more...i think that would be all you need, i know what server type i am gonna set up, based apon what one of the server owners said, so yeah.........i dont need to know about that, i just need to know if it wil run now on my computer, one of the server owners said it would, so yeah....i mean, nothing should go wrong, he said even though i cant run the game on my computer, the server should still run fine.
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Re: Server Help

Post by Darkwing on 2010-11-01, 14:19

Evil Person wrote:


2. no unless he plays minecraft or reads this forum (Nope, and how did you know it was minecraft?)


because you said it in your first post

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Re: Server Help

Post by leewatson1 on 2010-11-01, 14:22

I've been running a minecraft server for 3 months now and it's been fine
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Re: Server Help

Post by webxro on 2010-11-01, 14:24

nope the cpu and ram is to small you should try a online free host with a python/pear server i posted a link about this earlier
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Re: Server Help

Post by Evil Person on 2010-11-01, 14:24

Ok well, i will ive it a shot then Very Happy

and lee you play?

ANd i did? Hmmmm, lol Very Happy

And anyone guess what my username is? Lol Evil_Person Very Happy

I will post what my server name is once i get it up and running.
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Post by leewatson1 on 2010-11-01, 14:24

Yes i do play, i've played for a while now.
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Re: Server Help

Post by Evil Person on 2010-11-01, 14:29

Can you log on chat and walk me through starting up my server Very Happy lol i am so confused. And DW yout reply buttons are taking forever to lod for some reason...........
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Post by Darkwing on 2010-11-01, 14:30

It's not my fault you're using Win2K

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Post by Evil Person on 2010-11-01, 14:31

No it just started a few min ago, lol Very Happy

I was just saying so you knew incase it started to happen to you Very Happy
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Post by webxro on 2010-11-01, 14:33

Evil Person wrote:Can you log on chat and walk me through starting up my server Very Happy lol i am so confused. And DW yout reply buttons are taking forever to lod for some reason...........

take a look
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Post by Evil Person on 2010-11-01, 14:36

Thanks Very Happy

I hope it helps Very Happy
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Post by Vedic on 2010-11-01, 14:39

What do you need a sever for anyways?
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Re: Server Help

Post by leewatson1 on 2010-11-01, 15:14

so he can have admin over the game Razz thats why i do it kick all the griefers
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Post by Vedic on 2010-11-01, 15:15

leewatson1 wrote:so he can have admin over the game Razz thats why i do it kick all the griefers

the joys of having Power
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Post by leewatson1 on 2010-11-01, 15:16

It's wonderful
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Post by webxro on 2010-11-01, 15:16

power corrupts
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Post by leewatson1 on 2010-11-01, 15:17

Power doesn'y corrupt the corruption is always there you can just act on it if you have power
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Post by Vedic on 2010-11-01, 15:17

webxro wrote:power corrupts

Only with Anakin it did, and several hundred other movies characters
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Post by JPB18 on 2010-11-01, 15:18

Why would you need a game? An online discussion forum is enough for you to do that Very Happy (jk dw)

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Post by webxro on 2010-11-01, 15:19

does it work

off topic : hey i posted a link for a 3d good looking browser game in the gaming section and no opinion , do you people hate star wars that much


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Post by Evil Person on 2010-11-01, 15:20

It diddnt work, everytime i want to start the server, i try to connect from another computer and the server crashes, what am i doing wrong, i am following the video.
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Post by webxro on 2010-11-01, 15:21

you have to little cpu
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Post by Evil Person on 2010-11-01, 15:24

............what do you mean......

My computer should be able to run it, i am not shure if it crashes, or if i am doing something wrong, since i cant connect from the host computer, i need to connect from aother one and it wont let me, i get errors and i closes my client.
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Post by Vedic on 2010-11-01, 15:26

CPU = central processing Unit, you need a good, one to do any think.
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Post by Evil Person on 2010-11-01, 15:29

My computer is faster, has more freespace, and is overall better than the XP sitting next to it, i highly dout its a problem with my computer.
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Post by webxro on 2010-11-01, 15:29

1. what errors
2. the connection uses the cpu , so when you connect to that computer , it has to use a entire algorithm dedicated to what data to transmit to a pc and then transmitting it , so when you connect it need the cpu
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Post by Darkwing on 2010-11-01, 15:30

That doesn't change the fact that if your PC physically can't handle it cause its stats are too low, it just means the XPs have lower stats than yours

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Post by Evil Person on 2010-11-01, 15:35

So the CPU is the proccesor right?

I have a Pentium III Proccesor 730 MHz

And it meets all of the requirements, i dont see why its not working,

I get the hs_err_pid error on the computer i am using to connect with, then when i cant get on, i notice that all of the server things set back to 16 players, and 3 connections, and all that.
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Post by Darkwing on 2010-11-01, 15:37

Does your PC have room to set up the server and run the PC at the same time?

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Post by Darkwing on 2010-11-01, 15:37

and 730mhz is fairly low BTW

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Post by webxro on 2010-11-01, 15:38

well after a look on the forum i see people with 1gb of ram and 3.2 cpu that have only 5 players
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Post by Evil Person on 2010-11-01, 15:38

Yes, i am shure of it, because i am pretty shure if i can play a game, and have 5 internets open at once, + like 4 paints, a notepad, and a calculator open. all at once, i think i can have nothing open but the server, and the rest of the system idle.
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Post by Darkwing on 2010-11-01, 15:39

Yeah, I'm really inclined to the fact that your PC simply can't handle it

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Post by webxro on 2010-11-01, 15:40

like i said use the python version of the server on free host
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